In print, by voice etc.! We are to obey the truth as it is gien in context from the word. No blood was shed in vain. To preach anything else is a false Gospel. He is just another being subject to the other beings who turn out to be God. Man turns out to be more powerful than God by his own will power. Satan turns out to be God because he can keep people from going to heaven by his blinding work.
God is hamstrung. He is weak, anemic, without strength and cannot save. Someone or something out works Him. Repentance and faith in Christ and full Gospel message and its meaning is commanded by the Holy Spirit and the Word of God.
Turn to Him and be saved is the message to preachers, teachers and all others who are religious but lost! Your many many words show that you have fallen prey to the same things you decry. You speak of the beliefs of another as if you understand them all, yet you say how dare someone else do that of Calvinism.
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This whole debate has become a bunch of nonsense. Quite frankly I am tired of hearing it. I just knew that Jesus died to save me from my sin, he demanded I repent and believe, I cried and in repentance and am a child of God. It began with God and ends with God. Nothing I could have done to save myself then nor now.
This long post above leaves so many assumptions about those who do not claim 5 point Calvinism then goes on to say that anything other than Calvinism is heresy presumably implying not of God and therefore damned—that is a pretty proud statement to make IMO. What would the point of life be if we are all marionette puppets?? Humans exist on a timeline and God exists through eternity. Sounds sad to me. God created humans to be different than animals, not robots, capable to choose things, create things, and think deeply. It would make the scriptures about Jesus being a guide inaccurate it would be more like a force than a father.
So, you minored in Math. Just remember, there are some of us who would rather chew bricks than study math…well, maybe just pen a short story while hiding in the corner. Preach it, J. Their mindset was much different than ours. The Word of God is infallible. Human systems are not, whether it be Calvinism or Arminianism, to name just two.
I fear we sometimes become more passionate about our doctrinal distinctives than our passion for Jesus; knowing Him and making Him known.
Doctrine is very important. There are essentials that bind us together and allow us to minister together but there are many non essentials over which we disagree that should not break fellowship.
JD, you mentioned those in your article My husband and I served with a mission organization in West Africa alongside Calvinists and Arminians. It was never an issue.
We all recognized our priority — sharing the Gospel. My husband, who is now home with the Lord would frequently share this illustration : He would take a clean piece of paper and write in large letters the word Jesus, all the while talking about what can divide believers. He would write over the top of Jesus the word Calvinism, then Arminianism. On top he would write Fundamentalist and Charismatic.
Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Pre-tribulation and Post-tribulation, etc, etc. Nothing should ever compete with our passion for Jesus and His finished work, which is the Gospel message. Do I have your permission to re-post this on my blog larrydixon. Larry Dixon. Reminds me of the scripture 1Cor. There would be no comfort for me in believing that God had everything in my life as I percieve it, set in stone, so to say. There would be no fervency in prayer as God has already determined the outcome and there is nothing I can say or do to change that..
Scripture clearly shows God can and sometimes does change a particular course for our lives when prayer for change is offered up. We both know of many instances in the Bible where God intervened in a situation and tatally changed the course according to prayer. Let me be clear in that I do agree with you, that God has a purpose and plan for those that know him, those who are called or those who call upon the Lord, a plan that nothing will stand in the way of. But, within that overall plan, there will be many instances of variables that can be changed.
Calvinist, Fundamentalist etc. In the end, let us default to Christian. It is always accurate and appropriate among all believers, being the foundation of all we believe.
Thanks for your response Carol. The quote you responded to was from Spurgeon. I think his point was not I am of so and so so much as the same truth Paul preached which is the word of God inspired by the Holy Spirit was preached by others such as John Knox. All I read of Spurgeon he glorified God not man. Also I used this quote to give some context to the quote from Spurgeon JD used. Carol- I understand your perspective in the rest of your comment.
If you read the entirety of what I posted I hope you understand I always first and foremost am thankful to be in Jesus Christ, saved by Him and identified as a Christian little Christ event though that is not always seen through the sin nature that remains in me until God glorifies me completely. I think if you would see what the Southern Baptist statement on Calvinism says- it did not minimize or negate that there are differences, it just says those differences do not hinder our cooperation in various gospel endeavors such as missions support, etc.
That being said, I am very thankful and blessed by the teachings that God has decreed all that will come to pass before time, space and matter was created- in eternity he had a purpose even to the minute details of sparrows dying or the number of hairs that are on my head. Because I absolutely stink compared to God. What I want is so terribly less good than what God wants and purposes. You see this perspective come out in Rom. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. Rather, I pray primarily to ask God to align my will to His, and to pour my heart out to Him as I believe He is the one moving me to pray and what I should pray.
You see this side by side in Phillipians and Hebrews: ultimately the primary cause of all things is God even though we are responsible to expend all our efforts in our walk with God:. Phil 2 12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.
Heb 13 20 Now may the God of peace who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the eternal covenant, 21 equip you with everything good that you may do his will, working in us[a] that which is pleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever and ever. God had Jonah preach that there would be soon destruction by God notice how Jonah had no desire to do this but God pretty much forced him to….
It is His sovereign right to dispense mercy or withold it. In this case, he glorified Himself by dispenscing mercy on this wicked city that repented. So the question is- did God change his decree or mind? He would give these people repentance by the means of Jonah preaching His word and it was God who changed their hearts to repent so that He could achieve his purpose of being merciful.
He changed his course of action from destruction to salvation, but he did not change His eternal decree of salvation for those people whom He foreordained to repentance and faith. This is also seen in other scriptures- below is just a few: Prov. Also read Isaiah 40 through utterly amazing stuff there: Here is one example in chapter as God talks about King Cyrus over years before he is born and how God will use him to accomplish all His purposes- Cyrus thought he was doing what he wanted but without realizing it, he was a tool in the hand of our amazing God-.
And other verses that show that God is in control of all things: Rom 11 36 For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever.